Former Post Office boss Paula Vennells refuses to answer questions on Horizon scandal as she's confronted at church

8 April 2024, 08:11

Paula Vennells  led the Post Office at the height of the scandal
Paula Vennells led the Post Office at the height of the scandal. Picture: Alamy

By Asher McShane

Former Post Office boss Paula Vennells was confronted about the Horizon scandal while out cycling yesterday morning.

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It was the first time she had been seen in public since the airing of Mr Bates vs the Post Office, the TV drama that highlighted the scandal which saw sub-postmasters end their lives after being wrongly accused of fraud, theft and false accounting.

Ms Vennells has never given an interview about her role in the scandal.

She was filmed by Channel 4 News leaving a church on Sunday morning. A news team asked her whether she had “anything to say” and whether she had “lied to MPs.”

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Hundreds of sub-postmasters were wrongly convicted of stealing after the Post Office's defective Horizon accounting system made it appear as though money was missing at their branches.
Hundreds of sub-postmasters were wrongly convicted of stealing after the Post Office's defective Horizon accounting system made it appear as though money was missing at their branches. Picture: Alamy

She was also asked whether “there had been a cover-up.”

The ITV series aired earlier this year. Ms Vennells is expected to appear before an official inquiry into the scandal after it restarts next week.

Earlier this month covert recordings obtained by ITV and Channel 4 show Ms Vennells, who led the Post Office at the height of the scandal, was told in 2013 that there had been allegations the Horizon system could be accessed remotely, something she later told a committee of MPs was not possible.

It later emerged that subpostmasters' Horizon accounts could be accessed remotely by staff working at Fujitsu's headquarters in Bracknell.

Responding to the recordings, Labour MP Liam Byrne, who chairs the Commons Business and Trade Committee, said he was concerned Ms Vennells may have potentially misled Parliament.

He said: "We are deeply concerned by the latest revelations regarding the Post Office and will be exploring options for penalising the leadership that presided over the scandal. All options are on the table, including the Commons exercising its powers in relation to contempt of Parliament.

"We have to make absolutely sure that we don't jeopardise any future legal action or undermine Sir Wyn Williams' public inquiry. I will present my committee with options upon Parliament's return later this month for careful consideration."

In a call on July 2 2013, an independent investigator warned Ms Vennells not to categorically deny that Horizon could be accessed by Fujitsu staff in case "some bloody whistleblower" contradicted her.

Seven years later, in a letter to a parliamentary committee, Ms Vennells said she had been told by Fujitsu that the system could not be accessed remotely.

The recordings do not appear to contain any explicit statement confirming that Horizon could be accessed remotely.

Ms Vennells has already handed back her CBE as a result of her role in the scandal.

She said: "I continue to support and focus on co-operating with the inquiry and expect to be giving evidence in the coming months.

"I am truly sorry for the devastation caused to the subpostmasters and their families, whose lives were torn apart by being wrongly accused and wrongly prosecuted as a result of the Horizon system.

"I now intend to continue to focus on assisting the inquiry and will not make any further public comment until it has concluded."

Fujitsu declined to comment directly on the recordings or Mr Byrne's statement, but a spokesperson said: "The Fujitsu Group regards this matter with the utmost seriousness and offers its deepest apologies to the subpostmasters and their families.

"The UK statutory public inquiry, to which our UK subsidiary is providing full co-operation, is examining complex events that have unfolded over many years, and we remain steadfast in our commitment to this co-operation.

"Based on the findings of the inquiry, we will also be working with the UK Government on the appropriate actions, including contribution to compensation. The Fujitsu Group hopes for a swift resolution that ensures a just outcome for the victims."